This is the current version of the alt.radio.uk.talk-radio FAQ, which is automatically posted to the newsgroup every wednesday, and is actively maintained by Ian Clarke.
Apologies for the lack of formatting - this is pre-formatted in 80 column text to make it more readable on the newsgroup.
The FAQ below is automatically derived from the live FAQ source file (as maintained), and can therefore be considered the most uptodate version that exists.
Similarly, the newsgroup posting is derived from the same source, but can only be guaranteed uptodate at the time of posting.
alt.radio.uk.talk-radio Updated:
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Disclaimer: This information is compiled by contributors to the
talk radio newsgroup "alt.radio.uk.talk-radio", and
as such, is provided "as is". Nothing contained herein
is to be taken as comment from *any* official source.
Personal Disclaimer: Although I put this FAQ together, I've tried to
represent the common feeling on the newsgroup.
Also, some sections have been contributed by
others. Therefore, I don't necessarily agree or
disagree with the views contained within. If you
feel something doesn't represent group feeling,
please let me know. -- Jamie, January 1998.
Ditto. -- Ian, April 1999.
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* Special thanks to Sharon Hollick & Ross Farquhar *
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* oh, and Paul Gledhill (in his grumpy old way :-) *
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INDEX Last Updated
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1) The birth of alt.radio.uk.talk-radio 24-Mar-1998
2) The purpose of this newsgroup 19-Jan-2000
3) How to post to this newsgroup 11-Aug-1999
4) Newsgroup phrases 06-Mar-2002
5) Exhausted topics 07-Aug-2000
6) talkSPORT information & contact details 19-Sep-2002
7) Related websites and mailing lists 06-Mar-2002
8) IRC 19-Jan-2000
9) Newsgroup regulars 10-Feb-2001
10) Classic postings 10-May-1998
11) Who's watching us? 14-Feb-2001
12) Lucky gits, who got a life! 19-May-2000
13) Social gatherings 05-May-1999
14) Filtering unwanted posts 09-Aug-1998
15) Avoiding this message 15-Jul-1999
16) Trolls, flames, and indiscriminate cross-posting 10-Aug-1998
17) Thanks to: 29-Sep-1999
18) And finally... 29-Nov-1999
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1) The birth of alt.radio.uk.talk-radio
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The newsgroup was created by Jon Knight - a poster to the newsgroup
"alt.radio.uk", on 1st June 1995. Ironically, he created the group not
to start the forum, but to get *rid* of talk radio chat from his group!
Here is the control message that created this newsgroup:
| Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.radio.uk.talk-radio
| From: jmak1@cam.ac.uk (Jon Knight)
| Date: 1995/06/01
| Message-Id: <3qkmrd$62e@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
| Approved: jmak1@cam.ac.uk
| Control: newgroup alt.radio.uk.talk-radio
| Organization: University of Cambridge, England
| Newsgroups: alt.config
|
| After discussion on alt.config, alt.radio.uk and uk.media which
| came to a general supporting consensus, alt.radio.uk.talk-radio
| is created for the purpose of discussing UK based talk radio,
| which has been recently overflowing the traffic on alt.radio.uk
| and is not sufficiently covered by any existing newsgroups, nor
| does it duplicate the purpose of any existing newsgroup. An alt
| hierarchy has been chosen because the parent group is in the alt
| hierarchy and the large numbers of European listeners make the uk
| hierarchy less suitable.
|
| For your newsgroups file:
| alt.radio.uk.talk-radio Discussion of UK based Talk Radio
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2) The purpose of this newsgroup
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Summed up, quite neatly, by Merlin and Nick, in replies to sensible
postings from two newcomers:
| From: Merlin <merlin@{NO-JUNK}etinarc.demon.co.uk>
| Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 00:00:00 GMT
| Message ID: <ilWYgIAJ8Ah0Ewmw@etinarc.demon.co.uk>
|
| What do you think this newsgroup is? A serious debating forum?
| How dare you come here with a reasoned argument and some valid
| points, making barbed comments and observations yet leaving
| things open for discussion. We will put something in the FAQ
| about this: No structured and critical (positive or negative)
| comment on the newsgroup."
| From: Nick <nick@mycropht.freeserve.co.uk>
| Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:22:09 GMT
| Message ID: <qSIFmFAx+Fh3Ew4c@voiceware.demon.co.uk>
|
| I don't wish to over-egg this particular pudding, but just stop
| and think about what usenet is all about. Think of it as a cross
| between a pub and a genetic experiment. Conversations are triggered
| and then wander as they will, their life chances dependent on the
| pseudo-random combinations of their verbal DNA. In true Darwinian
| style, threads that have merit survive, others perish. Sometimes
| there are evolutionary culs-de-sac which live on without any apparent
| purpose [1] [2] but then the ways of the Creator are ineffable.
|
|[1] But Eric doesn't seem as prolific as he once was, fortunately. [3]
|[2] Like wasps. What are they *for* ??
|[3] Another in-joke. Whoops.
In keeping with the spirit of talk radio (note the lower-case),
you'll find that just about "anything goes" with the newsgroup
regulars. This is not elitist - it's just that once you've been
here a while, you'll have exhausted most talk radio subjects,
and so break into chat on more diverse topics to keep the
community feel of the group alive.
Conversations are mostly instigated by something that happened
(or was discussed) on a uk talk radio station, or by current
topical events.
Often, there's no relevance at all!
* Newcomers would be well advised to remain on-topic initially, until *
* their name becomes more familiar - no-one likes a stranger coming in *
* spewing irrelevant crap - there is enough of that from the regulars! *
* If you don't heed this warning, expect to be treated with contempt. *
Newcomers should also be wary that there is a tendency amongst some
regulars to "test" them - usually in the form of abusive or "clever"
replies to their initial posts.
Don't take the bait! Those who do, tend to moan about the clique,
snobby atmosphere, but they should remember that we were all new to
the group at some stage - those "clique members" are just the ones
that stood their ground.
However, SPAM, scams, HTML, and indiscriminate cross-postings are not
tolerated, and, to quote Mike Dickin, "<wheeze> please make sure your
brain is in first gear" before posting. Fools will find themselves the
newsgroup "whipping boy", until the next fool comes along!
Newcomers, please read <ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/rfc/rfc1855.txt>
for an introduction to "Netiquette" (how to write politely). If you
don't, it's possible that your article may -unintentionally- be
considered rude, as you may inadvertently break some convention.
********** UPDATE **********
Under general consensus from the regulars, it was agreed that the
"talk-radio" of "alt.radio.uk.talk-radio" should denote the genre
of radio discussed, now that "Talk Radio", the station, no longer
exists. This change allows listeners to other uk talk radio stations
(e.g. LBC) to also use this forum.
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3) How to post to this newsgroup
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Thanks to Merlin for the following:
| To get around spammers and other unwanted shite, posters on this
| newsgroup have elected to prefix all their subject lines with
|
| TRUK:
|
| That way, you can set your filters up to accept only those articles.
[ See chapter 15 for details on how to do ]
[ this in the more popular newsreaders. ]
( As a bit of history, initially we elected to use the filter "TR". )
( However, someone pointed out that his newsreader had trouble )
( filtering on only 2 characters, so it was suggested we used "TRUK" )
( instead. Although, at that time, Talk Radio had already dropped )
( the "UK" from it's title, this acronym was commonly understood. )
As Paul writes (below), the use of the prefix is VERY important.
Your initial postings are our first impressions of you, and will
decide what kind of reponses you get.
| Just because the volume of messages on the group is quite limited,
| spam is relatively low, and you can usually get away without posting
| with the prefix, this DOES NOT mean you shouldn't use it. It is
| now widely accepted throughout the group and a flagrant breach of
| this will result in the following course of action being taken:
|
| 1) Multiple reminders from other contributors.
| 2) Flaming.
| 3) UN Sanctions followed by air strikes.
|
| Non-use of the filter winds Paul up to infinity and could cost
| him the little sanity that he has left.
Many people, whilst not killing such articles, sort them with a low
priority, and, should we ever get another wave of spam abuse like
that of the "psychic spammer" (which spawned the original decision),
people might start killing non-compliant messages again.
Therefore, to avoid your messages potentially being lost altogether,
or appearing at the bottom of the list, amongst all the other shite,
spam, and postings from people who don't bother to read FAQ's ;-) ,
you should get into the practice of using the prefix now.
If nothing else, it proves to the other contributors that at least
you've taken the time and effort to monitor the group, and read the
FAQ before posting. You *will* be treated more seriously, if you do!
So please, do yourself (and us) a favour. Use the prefix!
********** UPDATE **********
There are now two other prefixes that may be used on this newsgroup:
LBC: - For discussion of the London-based radio station, LBC.
OT: - For off-topic posts (Jamie's favourites! :-).
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4) Newsgroup phrases
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Here is a list of phrases often used on the newsgroup, and their
newsgroup history.
o "You are ..... and I claim my five pounds"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Originally used on the newsgroup by Nick, derivatives of this
phrase pop up from time to time (often shortened to 'AICMFP').
As Nick explains in reply to the comment "Nick started this" :
| From: Nick <nick@voiceware.demon.co.uk>
| Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:34:02 GMT
| Message ID: <OlHKwHAagAF1EwHV@voiceware.demon.co.uk>
|
| Perhaps I did, on here, but if so, only with reference to a
| marketing stunt of the early 60s. I don't remember the exact
| details, but I think it was the Daily Mirror. One had to spot
| their man in the street, somewhere in the UK, go up to him and
| say "You are Mr Money and I claim my five pounds."
o "Lemon Angels"
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lemon Angels have been mentioned on the group ever since I first
subscribed, and I often wondered about their origins! Thanks to Ross
and Stefan for explaining the story behind arut-r's official snack.
| From: Stefan [Malcolm Inglis <mjasing@zetnet.co.uk>]
| Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:34:35 GMT
| Message-ID: <1999051623343568184@zetnet.co.uk>
|
| I must admit I haven't the faintest idea why I posted it, but
| was a good wholesome recipe that the whole family could enjoy,
| and Sharon could cook for us. ;o) Please excuse the olde
| Englisheee measurements... American book....
Lemon Angels recipe: - [ discovered to be an explosive hoax ]
[ so I've removed the url. ]
| From: "Ross Farquhar" <rmf@infospacemail.com>
| Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:43:43 GMT
| Message-ID: <7hpog1$qos$2@plutonium.btinternet.com>
|
| Well, the Angels have become famous from the recent departure,
| and then return of many regulars. Almost every returning regular
| has been offered a Lemon Angel by Sljh, who has made it her mission
| to provide the hard-workers of arutr with lemon flavoured snacks.
| This mission has now been recognised and will soon be entered into
| the FAQ (if Ian keeps the thing as up-to-date as he claims:-)).
o "Leave it, Paul!!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
First used by Rosie, this phrase is a reference to Paul Gledhill's
uncanny knack of stepping in with a smutty remark, when replying to
a completely 'innocent' post. :-)
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5) Exhausted topics
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The following list of topics have been done to death on the newsgroup.
Raise again at your own peril!
o "Where is Caesar the Geezer?"
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I've been informed that the original content of this section was
inaccurate. Therefore I have temporarily removed it, until I
get further information. In the meantime, those interested in
Caesar the Geezer should check out:
alt.fan.caesar-geezer
Official CtG Website - http://www.caesarthegeezer.co.uk
o "Where are Abbot, Allen, Banks & Ferrari, Bolger, Chisholm, Deeley,
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McGiffin, Raeburn, Reeve, and Roberts?"
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If you've not listened to Talk Radio (now called "talkSPORT") for
a while, you will probably be wondering where all your favourite
presenters are! Well, some have moved to LBC - 1152 AM (London area
only, although they also broadcast over the Internet). Unfortunately,
LBC also seems to be undergoing major changes, so if your favourite
presenter is not listed on the LBC website check out chapter 7 for
any info provided by talk radio related websites. As mentioned
earlier, discussion of LBC is now welcomed on this newsgroup.
LBC Official Website - http://www.lbc.co.uk/
o "Kelvin MacKenzie is a [insert profanity here]!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There's little (if any) opposition to this view amongst many on the
group, so, unless you can put a new spin on it, or inject it with a
little humour, don't bother! Besides, there's now a newsgroup for
people to vent their frustrations:
alt.hate.kelvinmckenzie
Described by it's creator, Chris Barnes, in the following post:
| From: chriswcuk@aol.comedy-isp (ChrisWCUK)
| Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:26:23 GMT
| Message ID: <19990420152623.03352.00000199@ngol07.aol.com>
|
| If anyone wants to share their bitter and twisted thoughts about
| torturing Kelvin McKenzie or anything like that, check out
| alt.hate.kelvinmckenzie. Yes, I know not much is happening yet,
| but it will. Honestly.
|
| Some ISPs might not carry the NG at the moment, so you might have
| to use DejaNews. Such is life. I know for a fact EidosNet carries
| alt.hate.kelvinmckenzie (along with a plethora of alt.binaries
| groups that I'm sure people like you wouldn't be interested in <g>)
| and it's free as well, so you could sign up for that if you wanted.
| Or not, for balance.
o "talkSPORT is fantastic/rubbish! I love/hate all the sport!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Whilst discussion of the night time (sports-free) shows is welcome,
comments on the rest of talkSPORT's output should be directed to:
alt.radio.uk.talk-sport
This newsgroup was specifically set up to rid arut-r of sport-related
posts, so any praise/criticism of the sports content should be posted
there.
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6) talkSPORT information & contact details
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Phone: Studio - 08704 202020 Office - 0171 636 1089
Fax: Studio - 0207 9597804 Office - 0171 636 1053
Text: Studio - 81089 (Vodaphone only)
Web: talkSPORT - http://www.talksport.net/
Ian Collins - http://www.iancollins.net/
James Whale - http://www.the-whale.com/
Charlie Wolf - http://www.charliewolf.com/
Email: Presenters - http://www.talksport.net/
Address: talkSPORT Chief Executive: Kelvin MacKenzie
P.O. Box 1089 Managing Director: Jason Bryant
London Chief Operations Officer: Jonathan Goodwin
SE1 8WQ Managing Editor: Anthony Bellekom
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7) Related websites and mailing lists
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a) The alt.radio.uk.talk-radio webring
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Set up by Paul Gledhill on the 21st February 1999, this webring
provides easy access to talk radio related websites, and the
homepages of alt.radio.uk.talk-radio contributors.
o ARUT-R Webring Homepage - http://www.anomaly.co.uk/arutrring.htm
b) Talk radio (official)
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o Nick Abbot - http://www.nickabbot.com/ (selection of sites)
o Nick Abbot mailing list - http://www.w2s.co.uk/nick-abbot/list/
o Sean Bolger - http://www.seanbolger.com/
o Caesar the Geezer - http://www.caesarthegeezer.co.uk/
o Russell Grant - http://www.russellgrant.com/
o Carol McGiffin - http://web.ukonline.co.uk/chilled/carolindex.html
o Carol McGiffin mail list- http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/oh-right-yeah
o Nancy Roberts - http://www.nancyinteractive.com/
o Bob Tomalski - http://www.medianet.demon.co.uk/
o W/e Breakfast Show - http://www.sparksoft.clara.net/trweb/
c) Talk radio (unofficial)
----------
o ARUT-R & #truk - http://www.anomaly.co.uk/arutr.htm
o ARUT-R FAQ Page - http://www.talkradio.bishsite.org/
o Behind the Scenes at TR - http://www.w2s.net/chris/trbehind.html
o Tommy Boyd Shrine - http://www.btinternet.com/~bbkuk/tbshrine/
o Tommy Boyd Tribute - http://www.tommyboyd.co.uk/
o James H Reeve - http://trouser.hypermart.net/jhr/
o TR Petition Site - http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/7272/
d) Other radio-related sites
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o RAJAR:Listening Figures - http://www.rajar.co.uk/
o Press Association - http://www.pa.press.net/
o Radio Magazine - http://www.theradiomagazine.co.uk/
o Media UK Internet Dir. - http://www.mediauk.com/directory/radio/
o UK Radio (live audio) - http://www.ukradio.com/ukradio/listen/
o Web Radio (live audio) - http://www.web-radio.com/
o Live Radio (live audio) - http://www.live-radio.net/
o Broadcasting Standards - http://www.bsc.org.uk/
Commission
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8) IRC
~~~
Every Sunday, from 9.30pm (GMT) onwards, a number of people from
this newsgroup hang out on IRC channel #truk, on "ircnet". If you
have problems, try connecting to IRC servers "ircnet.demon.co.uk",
or "irc.bt.net"
It seems the only requirement is to be drunk, and to wear padded
trousers, as people are often kicked. Newcomers seem to be picked
on more often in what appears to be a sort of initiation ceremony.
Don't take it personally!
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9) Newsgroup regulars
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Here are some of the people who regularly post to this newsgroup:
Name Website & Email Addresses
---- -------------------------
Sludge.............. http://www.islander1.demon.co.uk/
sljh@islander1.demon.co.uk
Jess................ http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Pier/6638/
jbhodges@hotmail.com
Jamie............... http://www.bishopston.com/jamie/
jamie@bishopston.com
Steve Byatt......... http://www.sbyatt.demon.co.uk/
home@sbyatt.demon.co.uk
Eric................ http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/9253/Distant1.html
ekadams@btinternet.com
Ross................ http://www.bigfoot.com/~quitongo/
Ian................. http://www.clarkey.bishsite.org/
ian@charliewolf.com
Kate................ whiskeybob@lineone.net
Iori................ ioz@mac.com
Paul Gledhill....... http://www.anomaly.co.uk/
Paul Maplesden...... http://www.chalice.u-net.com/Home.htm
Nick................ http://www.voiceware.demon.co.uk/
Steve Day........... http://www.redimp.co.uk/
DJ Rich............. http://www.thedisco.demon.co.uk/
manuals............. http://www.instruction-manuals.co.uk/
Colen............... http://www.skrill.org/
Austin.............. http://www.docking.org.uk/
Trevor (Not Trevor). http://www.prioryv.demon.co.uk/
Giles...............
Rosie...............
Stefan..............
G...................
Rob.................
Neil................
Richard.............
Sue.................
Barry...............
Kat.................
BurnyŽŠ.............
Chris...............
Andrew..............
Matt................
Tim.................
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[ Don't worry, EMAIL addresses will ]
[ only be added here at your own request ]
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10) Classic postings
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some notable newsgroup postings are available on the FAQ website at:
http://www.talkradio.bishsite.org/
Currently listed:
Subject Author Posted Date
~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
The Great Lorraine Kelly Radio Game Giles Evans 18-Apr-1998
[ More to be added ]
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11) Who's watching us?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It has become obvious that someone is silently monitoring the
newsgroup in an official capacity. The following people linked to
"talkSPORT" (formerly "Talk Radio") have posted to, or publicly
spoken of, this newsgroup.
It must be stressed that anyone mentioned below is not posting in
an official capacity, unless they state otherwise. Similarly, their
email addresses will not be listed here, unless requested.
Sean Bolger - Ex-TR presenter. Occasional contributor.
Sandy Warr - Ex-TR presenter. Used to be very active on the
group, and still pops up from time to time.
Nancy Roberts - It's been ages since her last posting, but Nancy
used to pull her chair up to our kitchen table
to tell us about her up-and-coming shows.
Carol McGiffin - Has proved in various emails to people that she
reads the group, or, at least, has someone
forward specific articles on to her.
Gary Jacobs - talkSPORT's legal expert, "Judge Jacobs".
"SpiceJock" - Used to work at Talk Radio in the early days.
Production stuff, I think.
"TalkSpy" - Who knows? Hasn't posted here for ages, but was
an "insider" at Talk Radio, apparently.
James Whale - A closet fan of this newsgroup, James hides his
true feelings by describing it's contributors as:
"moronic anoraks, who think they own the station."
Jonathan Sanchez - Ex-Producer of James Whale's Sunday show, and
Sean Bolger's Late Breakfast, Jonathan has posted
here several times since leaving TR.
Mike Cobbe - His company designed/authored the old Talk Radio
website.
Ian Collins - Ian has admitted on-air to reading this newsgroup.
His assessment: "It's just damn bloody fascinating."
Alan Stevens - A representative of "Which Online", Alan discusses
computers on BT's "Timesmart" show.
Clockwork Orange - Arut-r's agent provocateur (newbies beware! - see
section 16), he phones talkSPORT as "Tim from
Liverpool", and has posted a variety of personal
info on talkSPORT's presenters. In recognition of
his talent for stirring, arut-r has bestowed upon
him the award of: Brother Of the Liverpudlian
Loyal Order of the Chocolate Kitchen Spoon.
Arise, Sir Clocky of Orange - B.O.L.L.O.C.K.S. :-)
[ Any others I've forgotten? ]
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12) Lucky gits, who got a life!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The following people used to post regularly to this newsgroup, but
now seem to have reclaimed their lives, and left to better things:
o "Kitty"
o "Pointless"
o Ed Walker
o "Merlin"
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13) Social gatherings
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There have been 3 social gatherings to date, and, with the group
becoming more popular, the last meeting was quite successful.
There should be quite a few more in the future.
Night-out #1 - Saturday 19th April 1997.
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A bit of a disaster. Despite a number of people agreeing to go, only
2 people actually turned up! (names withheld to protect the guilty).
This meeting was held in the Bath House, Dean Street, London.
Night-out #2 - Saturday 25th April 1998.
------------
A much bigger success. Many more people turned up; some even on time!
Again, this event started off in the Bath House, and ended up in Soho
(simply a Chinese Restaurant... what were you thinking?)
Night-out #3 - Saturday 24th April 1999.
------------
Here are Jamie's recollections (which I've edited for brevity):
| From: jamie@bishopston.com (Jamie Jones)
| Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:05:44 GMT
| Message ID: <slrn7igppn.57m.jamie.99119@catflap.bishopston.com>
|
| I got to the Bath House at about 8.30pm - only an hour late, which
| is good for me - and brought 2 friends: Declan and Samantha. Paul
| greeted me warmly: "You're late, you bastard. I've been here on my
| own for an hour. People have been looking at me, and thinking I've
| been stood up". Still, I'm sure he's used to it. Then Nick arrived
| - even later than me. Of course, I pointed this out to him, but he
| was quick to remind me that he was still earlier than I was last year.
| Shortly afterwards, the lovely Sam and I decided to go to pizza hut.
| Unfortunately, despite Nick's complaints that he'd only had one drink,
| the others came too ;-) The meal went by with lots of talk about
| nothing - and at one point, Paul and Declan even talked about Talk
| Radio! Paul seemed very interested in what the lovely Sam was saying,
| but as you lot weren't there, you'll never know what it was! We left
| there at about 11.45pm, and said our farewells to Nick and Paul.
|
| Not much to gossip about really, but it was a good night.
|
| See you all next year!
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14) Filtering the messages on the group (killfiles etc.)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agent 1.5 (thanks to Paul)
~~~~~~~~~
To filter out messages with a particular subject:
| From: Paul Gledhill
| Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:42:20 GMT
|
| Agent 1.5
| With FAQ message on screen....
| Click on "Message"
| Then "Filters"
| Then "Add Kill Filter"
| Ensure that "TRUK: FAQ - * READ THIS FIRST *" is visible in the
| subject box.
| Ensure that Kill Action is set to Delete.
| Scope set to Group
| Priority 601
| Expire in 30 days set to No
| Apply immediately.
| Click OK and forget.
MS Outlook Express (thanks to Richard)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To filter out messages from a particular person:
| From: "Richard Patefield" <ydj85@dial.pipex.com>
| Subject: TRUK: apropos of KW/ Filters/ FAQ
| Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:34:35 +0100
| Message-ID: <6pic19$djh$1@plug.news.pipex.net>
|
| In your newsreading window go to Tools / Newsgroup filters.
| This opens the newsgroup filters dialogue box.
| In the Groups dropdown box choose the group that your
| spammer/nuisance/conspiracy obsessive is on.
| Click the Add button.
| In the From field type the name of your spammer/nuisance.
| Click OK. Click OK
|
| You will still download these messages you just won't see them.
| If your filtered messages appear in blue you need to check that
| there is no tick next to "Filtered messages" in your View /Current
| View setting.
[ If you have details on a newsreader not listed here, ]
[ please send them to me; address at end of FAQ. Thanks. ]
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15) Avoiding this message
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now the geeky bit:
Each time this FAQ is posted, it automatically expires the previous
posting, so you should never see this message on the group more than
once at any one time, unless your news server doesn't honour cancels.
The "sender" of this message is automatically set to:
"alt.radio.uk.talk-radio.<DATE-LAST-ALTERED>@autofaq.bishopston.com"
(e.g. From: alt.radio.uk.talk-radio.19990519@autofaq.bishopston.com)
If you put this address in your kill-file, based on the "From" line,
you will not see the FAQ every week, unless it gets updated.
Alternatively, if you don't want to see the FAQ at all, just put:
"alt.radio.uk.talk-radio.*@autofaq.bishopston.com" as the text in
your kill-file.
[ See chapter 14 for details on how to do ]
[ this in the more popular newsreaders. ]
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16) Trolls, flames, and indiscriminate cross-posting
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Unfortunately, these features are common to all newsgroups.
"Trolls" are people who deliberately post antagonistic messages
to provoke an angry response. They also post angry replies ("flames")
to other "innocent" messages, just to start an argument ("flame war").
Another method used is to cross-post an article to an inappropriate
group, in the hope that any "innocent" response will cause hostilities
from people in the remote group.
There are a few "trolls" on this group, but naming them would only
further their notoriety.
For more information on recognising trolls, and configuring killfiles:
http://digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html
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17) Thanks to:
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27-Nov-1998 - Eric Adams & Chris Barnes for their contributions.
05-May-1999 - Jamie Jones for providing details on the ng night-out.
12-May-1999 - Rosie Stevens for her grammatical fine-tuning.
19-May-1999 - Ross Farquhar and Stefan for their "Lemon Angel" info.
26-May-1999 - Sharon Hollick for a new chapter heading [ch.13].
02-Jun-1999 - Jamie Jones for adding the "OT:" prefix [ch.3].
11-Aug-1999 - Paul Gledhill for his "prefix" contribution [ch.3].
29-Sep-1999 - Jamie Jones and Eric Adams for updates [ch.4].
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18) And finally...
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I do not have editorial control of the FAQ, it belongs to the group,
so, if anyone wants to submit ideas, comments, suggestions, or even
new chapters, then please do! You can reply to the FAQ by email, or,
alternatively, email me at the address listed in the header of this
message.
Think of me as your creative conduit, and use me accordingly <cough>.
Ian Clarke.
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